Weld On A Hitch Failed...Where Is Product Quality and Standards?  None.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:17 am 
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Greetings, gang! I have not fallen off the face of the earth, though many days I feel like I have. Due to where I have been parked, I've not been able to ride my scooter as much as I'd like.

Thought I'd give you an update of the whole carrier hitch mount saga. I was headed south for the winter, and pulled over after I left the interstate to let my dog out for a few minutes. Imaging my surprise when I came around the back of the trailer and saw how close my scooter was to taking ANOTHER tumble!

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The carrier hitch had completely broken. It was only the safety strap I added and the front tiedown crossbar that Batman had added that kept the scooter from becoming road trash. (or come loose and kill someone! ) Because my trailer is so heavy at 10,000 lbs, of course I did not hear a thing, just like when the scooter too its FIRST tumble.

I was on the way to the place that had done the original welding anyway to have them do something better, as I never did like the setup. I called them and told them to send out someone to pick up the scooter. Luckily for them they did.

We got back to the shop and the owner said they "don't do crap work like that" but changed his tune when I showed him the receipt. He said they didn't know how to fix it. I told them to shorten the tiedown bars on the trailer side and shorten the bar that goes into the receiver. That would get the whole carrier closer to the trailer and lessen the possibility of it dragging when going down an incline, e.g. a driveway.

They did it like I wanted. I think the owner finally realized how close he came to a major lawsuit. At least they were smart enough NOT to try charging me for the fix. The carrier is now almost 6 inches lower and is MUCH safer to load/unload as well.

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Hennyway, I think fondly of this forum, especially the guys who donated parts and batman for the wrenching. Even though I didn't follow up with the t-shirts (you said they weren't necessary so my small budget thanks you) you will always be my Zuma Heroes!

By the way, I'll be near San Antonio, TX for the next couple of months and would love to get together with a Zuma brother or sister! I am out in the boonies but could load the carrier on the back of the pickup and bring it along.

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Good to hear from you ... and Happy New Year !!
It's Ground Hog's Day already !!
The hitch mount looks much more secure now ... and as you say ... easier to load and unload.


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so does the carrier slide straight into the reciver now
if not make sure its boxed in good other wise thesame thing will happen

yeah that was just piss poor enginering that was never strong enough they should have had some plates welded along the raise and the tube kinda like boxing plates
more surface area to weld

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Man, I remember the original. That would have been awful. Glad it's okay


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jmkjr, yes, the carrier slides straight into the receiver now. I shoulda had them do t this way to begin with, but I didn't know enough to at the time.

A lesson learned!

speed and style, yes it's hard to believe so much time has gone by. I planned to visit Roswell on my way to Texas, but circumstances dictated otherwise. :D

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I'm really glad Hero needed the restroom when he did. I am glad for you that you had the receipt and were able to get it taken care of. I have been wondering how you are doing. Glad to know things are well. Keith


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time to get a camera with a monitor up front or some type of safety cable with an audible beeper to let you know if things are coming loose

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failed due to cold welds, no penetration. notice how the one piece broke away while the weld stayed on the base.

stay far away from that shop in the future.

or i should say; that welder.

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wow, I read that first thread. You got very lucky this time. can I suggest a $80-100 wireless camera sold at most auto stores. Connects to license plate for backing up, but you can wire it to a switch so you can turn it on and off whenever you want, and if you license plate is near by use the bolts to mount it. Plus then you can also use it to back up, and watch the carrier once in a while.

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Ive seen this one at pepboys auto store $85
http://www.amazon.com/Peak-PKC0RA-01-Wireless-Back-Up-Monitor/dp/B001P27ZVE

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Yeppers! You guys are absolutely right about the camera. I've already started shopping. zumike, thanks for the tip. That is the best deal I've seen.

The welding shop told me they figured out who had done the weld and had fired the guy for other reasons since he did the work on my hitch. The one owner that I talked to this time said that his brother, another owner, should have never let that work leave the shop and was causing them other problems. I politely suggested they may want to cut him loose - he's a tremendous liability and a disaster waiting to happen!

derHahn, I haven't forgotten your suggestion about a clamping bar for the wheels. Until I get it done, I have three separate heavy bungee cords wrapped tightly around each wheel when I travel, as well as a heavy tow strap wrapped around the steering columm and fastened tightly to the ladder. That strap is what saved my bacon this time.

Now I just need to find a cheap place to park where I can get out on my scoot more. Nothing but 60 mph highways and speed demon TX drivers around here. But "here" is free with hookups! :D

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i know they are more expensive but maybe look at some thing along the line of clovers rev055 back up camera system that allows you to have more then one cam
you ould use one like a regular review camera/mirror and mount the seondary cam to watch the scoot and switch between the two every now and then

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failed due to cold welds, no penetration. notice how the one piece broke away while the weld stayed on the base.

stay far away from that shop in the future.

or i should say; that welder.


Just as he says....^^^^^^^

When I first see the pictures,
I wondered what you had under that tarp to cause such a failure.


Never seen such shit welding.
On a normal decent weld most welders work on 1" of weld holding 1 ton dead weight.
With the amount of weld there it should have been strong enough to lift the whole rig
Not just a 90kg bike on the back.
Certainly the steel would have failed long before the weld would.

Anyway, glad no one was hurt, and bike was undamaged.

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So lucky.......ssooo sooo ssssooooooo lucky.Ha ha Glad the zumas still alive!

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